Comments on: God and Moral Autonomy http://urbanphilosophy.net/philosophy/god-and-moral-autonomy/ Your Thoughts, Everyone's Wisdom Tue, 31 Jan 2012 13:14:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Concerned Netizen http://urbanphilosophy.net/philosophy/god-and-moral-autonomy/comment-page-1/#comment-1142 Concerned Netizen Wed, 24 Feb 2010 03:16:06 +0000 http://urbanphilosophy.net/?p=1071#comment-1142 Your argument makes too many assumptions, ala swiss cheese. There can certainly be a God not worthy of worship. Even if there was a God worthy of worship, he might not be moral...read the Bible, you'll find out that God has made a few mistakes (and has been tempted by the Devil). P1: Assumption based on nothing. P2: Spelled since, but whatever. God can do whatever he wants, that is why he is God. P3: God is not perfect in any way...again, he was tempted by the Devil, which implies imperfection. P4: Morally 'chooseworthy' action. No such thing as a morally perfect action. P5: Individual humans may have flawed morality, but humans as a species do not.. But, I digress. Please enlighten us as to what God's morality is. Also, read what Rachels wrote abotu Mrs. Brown up above. Your argument makes too many assumptions, ala swiss cheese. There can certainly be a God not worthy of worship. Even if there was a God worthy of worship, he might not be moral…read the Bible, you'll find out that God has made a few mistakes (and has been tempted by the Devil).

P1: Assumption based on nothing.
P2: Spelled since, but whatever. God can do whatever he wants, that is why he is God.
P3: God is not perfect in any way…again, he was tempted by the Devil, which implies imperfection.
P4: Morally 'chooseworthy' action. No such thing as a morally perfect action.
P5: Individual humans may have flawed morality, but humans as a species do not..

But, I digress. Please enlighten us as to what God's morality is.

Also, read what Rachels wrote abotu Mrs. Brown up above.

]]> By: Concerned Netizen http://urbanphilosophy.net/philosophy/god-and-moral-autonomy/comment-page-1/#comment-10142 Concerned Netizen Wed, 24 Feb 2010 03:16:00 +0000 http://urbanphilosophy.net/?p=1071#comment-10142 Your argument makes too many assumptions, ala swiss cheese. There can certainly be a God not worthy of worship. Even if there was a God worthy of worship, he might not be moral...read the Bible, you'll find out that God has made a few mistakes (and has been tempted by the Devil). P1: Assumption based on nothing. P2: Spelled since, but whatever. God can do whatever he wants, that is why he is God. P3: God is not perfect in any way...again, he was tempted by the Devil, which implies imperfection. P4: Morally 'chooseworthy' action. No such thing as a morally perfect action. P5: Individual humans may have flawed morality, but humans as a species do not.. But, I digress. Please enlighten us as to what God's morality is. Also, read what Rachels wrote abotu Mrs. Brown up above. Your argument makes too many assumptions, ala swiss cheese. There can certainly be a God not worthy of worship. Even if there was a God worthy of worship, he might not be moral…read the Bible, you'll find out that God has made a few mistakes (and has been tempted by the Devil).

P1: Assumption based on nothing.
P2: Spelled since, but whatever. God can do whatever he wants, that is why he is God.
P3: God is not perfect in any way…again, he was tempted by the Devil, which implies imperfection.
P4: Morally 'chooseworthy' action. No such thing as a morally perfect action.
P5: Individual humans may have flawed morality, but humans as a species do not..

But, I digress. Please enlighten us as to what God's morality is.

Also, read what Rachels wrote abotu Mrs. Brown up above.

]]> By: Collin H. http://urbanphilosophy.net/philosophy/god-and-moral-autonomy/comment-page-1/#comment-1069 Collin H. Fri, 05 Feb 2010 07:51:23 +0000 http://urbanphilosophy.net/?p=1071#comment-1069 Also I'd like to add: Why does worship require the abandonment of one's role as an autonomous moral agent, and why would abandoning one's role as an autonomous moral agent require that the being is not worthy of worship, if this being commands us *too* be moral? Also I'd like to add: Why does worship require the abandonment of one's role as an autonomous moral agent, and why would abandoning one's role as an autonomous moral agent require that the being is not worthy of worship, if this being commands us *too* be moral?

]]> By: Collin H. http://urbanphilosophy.net/philosophy/god-and-moral-autonomy/comment-page-1/#comment-10141 Collin H. Fri, 05 Feb 2010 07:51:00 +0000 http://urbanphilosophy.net/?p=1071#comment-10141 Also I'd like to add: Why does worship require the abandonment of one's role as an autonomous moral agent, and why would abandoning one's role as an autonomous moral agent require that the being is not worthy of worship, if this being commands us *too* be moral? Also I'd like to add: Why does worship require the abandonment of one's role as an autonomous moral agent, and why would abandoning one's role as an autonomous moral agent require that the being is not worthy of worship, if this being commands us *too* be moral?

]]> By: Collin H. http://urbanphilosophy.net/philosophy/god-and-moral-autonomy/comment-page-1/#comment-1068 Collin H. Fri, 05 Feb 2010 07:36:02 +0000 http://urbanphilosophy.net/?p=1071#comment-1068 If God is worthy or worship, he is moral, which means he will command us to do the morally correct thing. God commands us to do what is moral, simultaneously he has given us a standard of morality which we can use to tell what is moral, and what is not. but we do not always do, or even correctly determine, what is moral because we are not perfect. but we do not always do, or even correctly determine, what is moral because we are not perfect. An answer to this objection may go along the lines of "wouldn't we rely on our morality to determine weather or not God is moral." To this I shall give my best answer. P1: If God does exist, God sets the standard of morality. P2: Sense God sets the standard of Morality, it would be in his nature to be moral. P3: Sense it is in God's nature to be moral, he is morally perfect. P4: If God is omniscient, then he would know the morally perfect action given every situation. P5: Humans have flawed morality and are not omniscient, compared to a God whom is morally perfect and omniscient and would know the morally perfect action in every given situation. C: Therefore, God's morality should be trusted above our own. If God is worthy or worship, he is moral, which means he will command us to do the morally correct thing. God commands us to do what is moral, simultaneously he has given us a standard of morality which we can use to tell what is moral, and what is not. but we do not always do, or even correctly determine, what is moral because we are not perfect. but we do not always do, or even correctly determine, what is moral because we are not perfect.
An answer to this objection may go along the lines of "wouldn't we rely on our morality to determine weather or not God is moral." To this I shall give my best answer.
P1: If God does exist, God sets the standard of morality.
P2: Sense God sets the standard of Morality, it would be in his nature to be moral.
P3: Sense it is in God's nature to be moral, he is morally perfect.
P4: If God is omniscient, then he would know the morally perfect action given every situation.
P5: Humans have flawed morality and are not omniscient, compared to a God whom is morally perfect and omniscient and would know the morally perfect action in every given situation.
C: Therefore, God's morality should be trusted above our own.

]]> By: Collin H. http://urbanphilosophy.net/philosophy/god-and-moral-autonomy/comment-page-1/#comment-10140 Collin H. Fri, 05 Feb 2010 07:36:00 +0000 http://urbanphilosophy.net/?p=1071#comment-10140 If God is worthy or worship, he is moral, which means he will command us to do the morally correct thing. God commands us to do what is moral, simultaneously he has given us a standard of morality which we can use to tell what is moral, and what is not. but we do not always do, or even correctly determine, what is moral because we are not perfect. but we do not always do, or even correctly determine, what is moral because we are not perfect. An answer to this objection may go along the lines of "wouldn't we rely on our morality to determine weather or not God is moral." To this I shall give my best answer. P1: If God does exist, God sets the standard of morality. P2: Sense God sets the standard of Morality, it would be in his nature to be moral. P3: Sense it is in God's nature to be moral, he is morally perfect. P4: If God is omniscient, then he would know the morally perfect action given every situation. P5: Humans have flawed morality and are not omniscient, compared to a God whom is morally perfect and omniscient and would know the morally perfect action in every given situation. C: Therefore, God's morality should be trusted above our own. If God is worthy or worship, he is moral, which means he will command us to do the morally correct thing. God commands us to do what is moral, simultaneously he has given us a standard of morality which we can use to tell what is moral, and what is not. but we do not always do, or even correctly determine, what is moral because we are not perfect. but we do not always do, or even correctly determine, what is moral because we are not perfect.
An answer to this objection may go along the lines of "wouldn't we rely on our morality to determine weather or not God is moral." To this I shall give my best answer.
P1: If God does exist, God sets the standard of morality.
P2: Sense God sets the standard of Morality, it would be in his nature to be moral.
P3: Sense it is in God's nature to be moral, he is morally perfect.
P4: If God is omniscient, then he would know the morally perfect action given every situation.
P5: Humans have flawed morality and are not omniscient, compared to a God whom is morally perfect and omniscient and would know the morally perfect action in every given situation.
C: Therefore, God's morality should be trusted above our own.

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